Hi,

I've probably asked something like this before in this group. Sorry if I'm
boring anyone.

I get an awful lot of image search hits to my aff sites, but very few
conventional search engine hits. Is there anything I can do to improve the
text search to image search result ratio?

I don't wan't to stop the image search results with a robots.txt entry or
anything, I would just like a few more text search hits.

Tressie
http://www.review-a-gadget.com/ <- site most affected!

"Trespasser" wrote ...
> I get an awful lot of image search hits to my aff sites, but very few
> conventional search engine hits. Is there anything I can do to improve the
> text search to image search result ratio?
> I don't wan't to stop the image search results with a robots.txt entry or
> anything, I would just like a few more text search hits.

The 'ratio' isn't the issue. you could improve that by reducing image
searches, which would be loopy!

treat the two as separate, which they are.

1. You don't have an image search problem

Great!

2. You do have a text search problem.

Two major issues:

A. Your site appears in sevral places:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~vanluynm/, http://www.review-a-gadget.com/,
http://review-a-gadget.com/ - at best, this divides your visitors between
three sites - and your ranking.

At worst, it can stop people finding your pages.

B. You have virtually no text. on many key pages. If you want to be found in
text searches, you need text for the SEs to compare with search terms.

Example:

Your front page includes the text "remote controlled helicopter" - but the
page you are taken to does not include that text - or virtually any other
potential search terms, other than two product names.

You need to get in your potential customers heads, and be sure the terms
they might use are included.

By the way, I suspect Google has noticed the spam links on your front page
and counted them against you.

You need to familiarise yourself with SE guidelines - you don't have to
follow them. But they don't have to index your pages, either. So treating
Google as if they are stupid is a tad unlikely to improve your visitor
numbers. Just a thought ;o)

And even if Google hasn't noticed, how long before a competitor dobs you in?
--

Andrew
http://www.seo2seo.com/
http://www.sick-site-syndrome.com/
First things first - but not necessarily in that order.

http://www.whalesrevenge.com/

Hi Andrew,

Thanks very much for taking an interest in this one.

Oops! Am I going to be penalised by Google for the front page links with
only dots as link text. I guess thats what you mean by spam links. I
couldn't see a problem with the concept, but if you say they are going to be
a problem, then they're the first thing to go.

Yes, I guess the lack of text search engine results may have something to do
with my lack of text on each page. I really just wanted to hack up a few
nasty little affiliate pages to see if I could make a quick buck or two.
Obviously I'm going to have to put a bit more work into the next site (the
beginnings of which comprise the spam links you may have followed).

Thanks very much for the input Andrew.

Tressie.

"Andrew Heenan" <andrew3@heenan.net> wrote in message
news:61e0g6F1ubb22U1@mid.individual.net...
> "Trespasser" wrote ...
>> I get an awful lot of image search hits to my aff sites, but very few
>> conventional search engine hits. Is there anything I can do to improve
>> the text search to image search result ratio?
>> I don't wan't to stop the image search results with a robots.txt entry or
>> anything, I would just like a few more text search hits.
>
> The 'ratio' isn't the issue. you could improve that by reducing image
> searches, which would be loopy!
>
> treat the two as separate, which they are.
>
> 1. You don't have an image search problem
>
> Great!
>
> 2. You do have a text search problem.
>
> Two major issues:
>
> A. Your site appears in sevral places:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~vanluynm/, http://www.review-a-gadget.com/,
> http://review-a-gadget.com/ - at best, this divides your visitors between
> three sites - and your ranking.
>
> At worst, it can stop people finding your pages.
>
> B. You have virtually no text. on many key pages. If you want to be found
> in text searches, you need text for the SEs to compare with search terms.
>
> Example:
>
> Your front page includes the text "remote controlled helicopter" - but the
> page you are taken to does not include that text - or virtually any other
> potential search terms, other than two product names.
>
> You need to get in your potential customers heads, and be sure the terms
> they might use are included.
>
> By the way, I suspect Google has noticed the spam links on your front page
> and counted them against you.
>
> You need to familiarise yourself with SE guidelines - you don't have to
> follow them. But they don't have to index your pages, either. So treating
> Google as if they are stupid is a tad unlikely to improve your visitor
> numbers. Just a thought ;o)
>
> And even if Google hasn't noticed, how long before a competitor dobs you
> in?
> --
>
> Andrew
> http://www.seo2seo.com/
> http://www.sick-site-syndrome.com/
> First things first - but not necessarily in that order.
>
> http://www.whalesrevenge.com/
>

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:42:03 +0800, "Trespasser" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I've probably asked something like this before in this group. Sorry if I'm
>boring anyone.
>
>I get an awful lot of image search hits to my aff sites, but very few
>conventional search engine hits. Is there anything I can do to improve the
>text search to image search result ratio?
>
>I don't wan't to stop the image search results with a robots.txt entry or
>anything, I would just like a few more text search hits.
>
>Tressie
>http://www.review-a-gadget.com/ <- site most affected!
>

I'd change the head layout from

<head>
<title>Electric Glock 18 Copy Pistol FPS-175 Full Auto Airsoft Gun
Review</title>
<meta name="keywords" content="airsoft pistol, Electric Glock 18 Copy
Pistol FPS-175 Full Auto Airsoft Gun, Glock 18, airsoft, gun, cheap,
pistol, electric, extreme, bb, revolver, weapon">
<meta name="description" content="Airsoft Pistol Review - Electric
Glock 18 Copy Pistol FPS-175 Full Auto Airsoft Gun">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>

to

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1">
<title>Electric Glock 18 Copy Pistol FPS-175 Full Auto Airsoft Gun
Review</title>
<meta name="description" content="Airsoft Pistol Review - Electric
Glock 18 Copy Pistol FPS-175 Full Auto Airsoft Gun">
<meta name="keywords" content="airsoft pistol, Electric Glock 18 Copy
Pistol FPS-175 Full Auto Airsoft Gun, Glock 18, airsoft, gun, cheap,
pistol, electric, extreme, bb, revolver, weapon">
</head>

because the pages should load quicker for one thing, get rid of all
the fonts and replace them with externalised styles, all the usual
yada. Then think of some more text for each of the pages. I dunno
what, get creative.

BB
--

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http://www.fat-odin.com/
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:02:56 +0800, "Trespasser" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM>
wrote:

>Hi Andrew,
>
>Thanks very much for taking an interest in this one.
>
>Oops! Am I going to be penalised by Google for the front page links with
>only dots as link text. I guess thats what you mean by spam links. I
>couldn't see a problem with the concept, but if you say they are going to be
>a problem, then they're the first thing to go.

That is what Andrew is on about. And if I were you, I would also
remove them from the rest of the site.

Think about your shopper. A lot of Americans are anti drugs [think of
Reefer Madness]

It could very well put off potential customers. Esp when they are not
related to what the site is about.

Make a site called www.review-a-chillum.com and they will fit in
better

>Yes, I guess the lack of text search engine results may have something to do
>with my lack of text on each page. I really just wanted to hack up a few
>nasty little affiliate pages to see if I could make a quick buck or two.
>Obviously I'm going to have to put a bit more work into the next site (the
>beginnings of which comprise the spam links you may have followed).

Don't forget to use the alt attribute.
But the site needs more text and less spammy looking site links.

plh
paul

>Thanks very much for the input Andrew.
>
>Tressie.
>
>"Andrew Heenan" <andrew3@heenan.net> wrote in message
>news:61e0g6F1ubb22U1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Trespasser" wrote ...
>>> I get an awful lot of image search hits to my aff sites, but very few
>>> conventional search engine hits. Is there anything I can do to improve
>>> the text search to image search result ratio?
>>> I don't wan't to stop the image search results with a robots.txt entry or
>>> anything, I would just like a few more text search hits.
>>
>> The 'ratio' isn't the issue. you could improve that by reducing image
>> searches, which would be loopy!
>>
>> treat the two as separate, which they are.
>>
>> 1. You don't have an image search problem
>>
>> Great!
>>
>> 2. You do have a text search problem.
>>
>> Two major issues:
>>
>> A. Your site appears in sevral places:
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~vanluynm/, http://www.review-a-gadget.com/,
>> http://review-a-gadget.com/ - at best, this divides your visitors between
>> three sites - and your ranking.
>>
>> At worst, it can stop people finding your pages.
>>
>> B. You have virtually no text. on many key pages. If you want to be found
>> in text searches, you need text for the SEs to compare with search terms.
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> Your front page includes the text "remote controlled helicopter" - but the
>> page you are taken to does not include that text - or virtually any other
>> potential search terms, other than two product names.
>>
>> You need to get in your potential customers heads, and be sure the terms
>> they might use are included.
>>
>> By the way, I suspect Google has noticed the spam links on your front page
>> and counted them against you.
>>
>> You need to familiarise yourself with SE guidelines - you don't have to
>> follow them. But they don't have to index your pages, either. So treating
>> Google as if they are stupid is a tad unlikely to improve your visitor
>> numbers. Just a thought ;o)
>>
>> And even if Google hasn't noticed, how long before a competitor dobs you
>> in?
>> --
>>
>> Andrew
>> http://www.seo2seo.com/
>> http://www.sick-site-syndrome.com/
>> First things first - but not necessarily in that order.
>>
>> http://www.whalesrevenge.com/
>>
>


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"Trespasser" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM> wrote ...
> Thanks very much for taking an interest in this one.

No worries, and Paul makes good points, too.

In general, realted links = good, nonrelated / paidlinks = bad

Always promote differently themed sites independently.

The problem with all affiliate sites, is you have to always be conscious
that there are another 20,000 istes out there, and you have to be better
thatn every single one of them!

Sounds daunting - but 95% of them will be identical, so you are off to a
good start by having your own page design!

Where you have text, that also looks like your own, which helps much more.

In my experience (mostly with Good Ole Amazon), the 'trick' is to choose a
small niche, value uniquity above all else, choose products that will be
around for a few years, and expand slowly. But you always need a fair bit of
text, to encompass every likely search term. A good affiliate program will
have reviews that you can plumb - but be selective, or you'll lose the
'unique page factor'.

Hasn't made me rich, but it pays the bills, and the joy is, it does grow
faster than inflation!
--

Andrew
http://www.seo2seo.com/
http://www.sick-site-syndrome.com/
First things first - but not necessarily in that order.

http://www.whalesrevenge.com/

Hi Paul,

Thanks very much for your post.

Yes, I agree that I've completely stuffed the R-A-G site by including all
those MJ seed page links. It's just a quick experiment before I have to go
back to school this fortnight. The review-a-gadget site has made a grand
total of $2.00 this month, so I figured I'd drain all that wasted PR into a
few experimental pages for a bit just to see what happens. The new pages
listed quickly, then just as quickly disappeared. Now they're back in
Google's index, but 95% of the hits are from image searches.

I totally agree with you that I've put badly perceived things on the
review-a-gadget site. It's still just an experiment for the new pages, and
it won't last long (even less time if I can fix R-A-G).

Tressie.

"Paul" <noone@houstoncrafts.com> wrote in message
news:j1n3r3lodl0ugmi8g3jud9tmvjc68lh1t4@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:02:56 +0800, "Trespasser" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM>
> wrote:
>
>>Hi Andrew,
>>
>>Thanks very much for taking an interest in this one.
>>
>>Oops! Am I going to be penalised by Google for the front page links with
>>only dots as link text. I guess thats what you mean by spam links. I
>>couldn't see a problem with the concept, but if you say they are going to
>>be
>>a problem, then they're the first thing to go.
>
> That is what Andrew is on about. And if I were you, I would also
> remove them from the rest of the site.
>
> Think about your shopper. A lot of Americans are anti drugs [think of
> Reefer Madness]
>
> It could very well put off potential customers. Esp when they are not
> related to what the site is about.
>
> Make a site called www.review-a-chillum.com and they will fit in
> better
>
>>Yes, I guess the lack of text search engine results may have something to
>>do
>>with my lack of text on each page. I really just wanted to hack up a few
>>nasty little affiliate pages to see if I could make a quick buck or two.
>>Obviously I'm going to have to put a bit more work into the next site (the
>>beginnings of which comprise the spam links you may have followed).
>
> Don't forget to use the alt attribute.
> But the site needs more text and less spammy looking site links.
>
> plh
> paul
>
>>Thanks very much for the input Andrew.
>>
>>Tressie.
>>
>>"Andrew Heenan" <andrew3@heenan.net> wrote in message
>>news:61e0g6F1ubb22U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Trespasser" wrote ...
>>>> I get an awful lot of image search hits to my aff sites, but very few
>>>> conventional search engine hits. Is there anything I can do to improve
>>>> the text search to image search result ratio?
>>>> I don't wan't to stop the image search results with a robots.txt entry
>>>> or
>>>> anything, I would just like a few more text search hits.
>>>
>>> The 'ratio' isn't the issue. you could improve that by reducing image
>>> searches, which would be loopy!
>>>
>>> treat the two as separate, which they are.
>>>
>>> 1. You don't have an image search problem
>>>
>>> Great!
>>>
>>> 2. You do have a text search problem.
>>>
>>> Two major issues:
>>>
>>> A. Your site appears in sevral places:
>>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~vanluynm/, http://www.review-a-gadget.com/,
>>> http://review-a-gadget.com/ - at best, this divides your visitors
>>> between
>>> three sites - and your ranking.
>>>
>>> At worst, it can stop people finding your pages.
>>>
>>> B. You have virtually no text. on many key pages. If you want to be
>>> found
>>> in text searches, you need text for the SEs to compare with search
>>> terms.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> Your front page includes the text "remote controlled helicopter" - but
>>> the
>>> page you are taken to does not include that text - or virtually any
>>> other
>>> potential search terms, other than two product names.
>>>
>>> You need to get in your potential customers heads, and be sure the terms
>>> they might use are included.
>>>
>>> By the way, I suspect Google has noticed the spam links on your front
>>> page
>>> and counted them against you.
>>>
>>> You need to familiarise yourself with SE guidelines - you don't have to
>>> follow them. But they don't have to index your pages, either. So
>>> treating
>>> Google as if they are stupid is a tad unlikely to improve your visitor
>>> numbers. Just a thought ;o)
>>>
>>> And even if Google hasn't noticed, how long before a competitor dobs you
>>> in?
>>> --
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>> http://www.seo2seo.com/
>>> http://www.sick-site-syndrome.com/
>>> First things first - but not necessarily in that order.
>>>
>>> http://www.whalesrevenge.com/
>>>
>>
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"Big Bill" <bill@kruse.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:42:03 +0800, "Trespasser" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM>
> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I've probably asked something like this before in this group. Sorry if I'm
>>boring anyone.
>>
>>I get an awful lot of image search hits to my aff sites, but very few
>>conventional search engine hits. Is there anything I can do to improve the
>>text search to image search result ratio?
>>
>>I don't wan't to stop the image search results with a robots.txt entry or
>>anything, I would just like a few more text search hits.
>>
>>Tressie
>>http://www.review-a-gadget.com/ <- site most affected!
>>
>
> I'd change the head layout from
>
> <head>
> <title>Electric Glock 18 Copy Pistol FPS-175 Full Auto Airsoft Gun
> Review</title>
> <meta name="keywords" content="airsoft pistol, Electric Glock 18 Copy
> Pistol FPS-175 Full Auto Airsoft Gun, Glock 18, airsoft, gun, cheap,
> pistol, electric, extreme, bb, revolver, weapon">
> <meta name="description" content="Airsoft Pistol Review - Electric
> Glock 18 Copy Pistol FPS-175 Full Auto Airsoft Gun">
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
> charset=iso-8859-1">
> </head>
>
> to
>
> <head>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
> charset=iso-8859-1">
> <title>Electric Glock 18 Copy Pistol FPS-175 Full Auto Airsoft Gun
> Review</title>
> <meta name="description" content="Airsoft Pistol Review - Electric
> Glock 18 Copy Pistol FPS-175 Full Auto Airsoft Gun">
> <meta name="keywords" content="airsoft pistol, Electric Glock 18 Copy
> Pistol FPS-175 Full Auto Airsoft Gun, Glock 18, airsoft, gun, cheap,
> pistol, electric, extreme, bb, revolver, weapon">
> </head>
>
> because the pages should load quicker for one thing, get rid of all
> the fonts and replace them with externalised styles, all the usual
> yada. Then think of some more text for each of the pages. I dunno
> what, get creative.
>
> BB
> --
>
> http://www.kruse.co.uk/
> http://www.fat-odin.com/
> http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/


Hi Bill,

Thanks for the advice about the page headers. I'll have a play with this
idea for the new pages, as there are only 10 of then to update so far.

Yes, I'm dying to learn a bit of CSS so I can lose the 'amateurish look'
that my pages always currently have. It might have to wait until next
Christmas, or maybe midyear, unfortunately.

Hey, my first bottom post! :-)

Tressie.

"Trespasser" wrote ...
> Hey, my first bottom post! :-)


All you need to do now is learn to selectively edit what you are quoting,
rather than leave the whole unedited post!

;o)

--

Andrew