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Old 11-15-2007, 01:08 AM
davidof
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Default Re: how long does it take ?

John Bokma wrote:
> davidof <david.george@g-dumpthisbit-mail.com> wrote:
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>>What I have trouble with is how you managed to use quite so many lines
>>to produce your homepage... oh you used Microsoft products!!! This
>>should really go in the A.I.S-E FAQ - never, ever use Microsoft products
>>to produce web pages, serve databases or do anything else connected with
>>the Internet unless you have a thorough understanding of the technology
>>first.

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> Put above that: Never ever bash a company/product if you have no clue what
> you're talking about and just are repeating fanboy FUD.


John,

I think you should read and think about what I said a bit more rather
than making rash statements. Obviously the heat wave in Mexico has been
frazzling your brain.

If you use Excel, Word, Frontpage straight out of the tin for building
web pages you will end up SE unfriendly, often non-compliant, horribly
bloated sites like the one we have just seen. If you read further down
you will see I suggested that he indeed uses FP but makes sure that he
uses a stylesheet and has a standards complaint template to work from
which FP will do.

It is funny, but over the x number of years I've been reading and
contributing to this n.g. a lot of people with problems with their
website have been using some MS product or another to construct the
pages. Just take a a look at the guy's site as it rather proves my
statement.

Similarly connecting an Access database via PWS to the Internet or even
IIS is going to give you some potential major headaches. Connecting a PC
running unpatched versions of Windows products (or ones that don't have
the latest patch MS is working on) can potentially get your PC owned or
infected with virus or other mal/adware. The number of PCs I have had to
clean out of viruses testfies to this. The same is true for other OS of
course but it doesn't make the above statement any less valid. I repeat
what I say, if the users had understood a bit better what they were
doing then they would not have had these problems. I have had a Windows
2000 system directly connected to the Internet for the last 5 years with
no problems, it is a question of understand what MS is giving you.

Similarly for .Net driven sites, you can easily end up with an interface
that only works with IE excluding a growing population of other browsers.

The danger with MS products is that they hide a lot the complexity of
what they are doing under a few mouse clicks without the user being
aware of the horrible HTML, jaded javascript and ActivX plugins their
site is being built with.
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